Trasduttori airmar mix and match
xruggiox (autore)
- 1/6
Ciao a tutti,
ho sempre saputo, leggendo sulla rete, che le versioni dei tradduttori airmar per i diversi produttori non differiscono solo per la tipologia di connettore ma anche al loro interno.
Ora ho visto che esitono dei trasduttori airmar denominati mix and match che sono compatibili con quasi tutte le case produttrici. Sono dotati di un cavo di 1m con un connettore airmar che va collegato ad un altro spezzone, fornito, con il connettore adatto al proprio ecoscandaglio. Sul sito airmar non ho trovato molto e quindi non ho ben capito se questa serie di trasduttori è più o meno recente dei classici realizzati per le singole case produttrici.
In ogni caso se effettivamente i trasduttori sono diversi al loro interno, in base alla marca dell'ecoscandaglio, mi chiedo se questi mix and match hanno le stesse prestazioni.
Grazie a tutti[/b]
ho sempre saputo, leggendo sulla rete, che le versioni dei tradduttori airmar per i diversi produttori non differiscono solo per la tipologia di connettore ma anche al loro interno.
Ora ho visto che esitono dei trasduttori airmar denominati mix and match che sono compatibili con quasi tutte le case produttrici. Sono dotati di un cavo di 1m con un connettore airmar che va collegato ad un altro spezzone, fornito, con il connettore adatto al proprio ecoscandaglio. Sul sito airmar non ho trovato molto e quindi non ho ben capito se questa serie di trasduttori è più o meno recente dei classici realizzati per le singole case produttrici.
In ogni caso se effettivamente i trasduttori sono diversi al loro interno, in base alla marca dell'ecoscandaglio, mi chiedo se questi mix and match hanno le stesse prestazioni.
Grazie a tutti[/b]
xruggiox (autore)
- 2/6
xruggiox (autore)
- 3/6
vedo che nessuno è informato ma che allo stesso tempo diverse persone hanno letto il topic! Ho mandato un'email alla airmar, non appena mi risponderanno posterò la risposta qui e magari sarà utile a qualcuno che si sta facendo la mia stessa domanda! 
xruggiox (autore)
- 4/6
mia email:
Hello,
I've found online shops selling mix and match transducers. I have tried to get some informations about those transducers on your website but it seems that the only thing I've found is a .pdf file where airmar introduces its technology with the id number of the mix and match transducers made. So I've tried to search on your website that id number (b260 id: 41-397-1-01) but it has given to me zero results. So i'm wondering which technology is the newest? mix and match transducers or transducers made by brands?
Kind Regards
risposta airmar:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Airmar.
The Mix and Match cabling was developed in an effort to reduce stock and inventory levels. We make transducers for many different OEM's, and some of the units we make for each OEM has different wiring. For example, we make the B260 for Furuno in two different ways, depending on which sounder is being used. With Mix and Match, you can buy just one transducer and connect the appropriate Mix and Match cable for your sounder. For example, you buy the Mix and Match B260 and a cable for use with Furuno. If you later decide you want to use Garmin, you just buy a new cable rather than a whole new transducer.
The Mix and Match idea is newer than making each transducer for each OEM, but the technology isn't different. It's just a different way of connecting the transducer to the sounder. A B260 Mix and Match with a Furuno Mix and Match cable is functionally the exact same thing as a B260 with a molded Furuno cable coming from it.
I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best Regards,
Ken Symonds
Airmar Support/Sales
mia risposta:
Hello,
thanks for the fast reply! That's what I wanted to know, which one technology is newer!
I would like to know more since I've seen that every b260 tranducer made by brand has different size of the 200 kHz elements (for ex. furuno has 36cm^2 while lowrance 35,3 cm^2). This makes different impedance values between those two transducer. So i'm wondering if transducer made by brands have such interior differences how an universal transducer will work in the same way? at the end will the performances be the same? or worser? ( i think that this answer will not be so simple to give since i think that this is even a industry strategy maybe to sell more with lower price but what about performances? - and honestly I m not seeing so much mix and match transducers around)
I hope that my message is clear!
Kind regards
Vi tengo aggiornato con la loro successiva risposta e spero che questo topic possa risultare utile o comunque di interesse a qualcuno!
Hello,
I've found online shops selling mix and match transducers. I have tried to get some informations about those transducers on your website but it seems that the only thing I've found is a .pdf file where airmar introduces its technology with the id number of the mix and match transducers made. So I've tried to search on your website that id number (b260 id: 41-397-1-01) but it has given to me zero results. So i'm wondering which technology is the newest? mix and match transducers or transducers made by brands?
Kind Regards
risposta airmar:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Airmar.
The Mix and Match cabling was developed in an effort to reduce stock and inventory levels. We make transducers for many different OEM's, and some of the units we make for each OEM has different wiring. For example, we make the B260 for Furuno in two different ways, depending on which sounder is being used. With Mix and Match, you can buy just one transducer and connect the appropriate Mix and Match cable for your sounder. For example, you buy the Mix and Match B260 and a cable for use with Furuno. If you later decide you want to use Garmin, you just buy a new cable rather than a whole new transducer.
The Mix and Match idea is newer than making each transducer for each OEM, but the technology isn't different. It's just a different way of connecting the transducer to the sounder. A B260 Mix and Match with a Furuno Mix and Match cable is functionally the exact same thing as a B260 with a molded Furuno cable coming from it.
I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best Regards,
Ken Symonds
Airmar Support/Sales
mia risposta:
Hello,
thanks for the fast reply! That's what I wanted to know, which one technology is newer!
I would like to know more since I've seen that every b260 tranducer made by brand has different size of the 200 kHz elements (for ex. furuno has 36cm^2 while lowrance 35,3 cm^2). This makes different impedance values between those two transducer. So i'm wondering if transducer made by brands have such interior differences how an universal transducer will work in the same way? at the end will the performances be the same? or worser? ( i think that this answer will not be so simple to give since i think that this is even a industry strategy maybe to sell more with lower price but what about performances? - and honestly I m not seeing so much mix and match transducers around)
I hope that my message is clear!
Kind regards
Vi tengo aggiornato con la loro successiva risposta e spero che questo topic possa risultare utile o comunque di interesse a qualcuno!
xruggiox (autore)
- 5/6
risposta airmar:
Hello,
The short answer is that yes, there are impedance differences. However, through our testing, the way that the OEM's drive the transducers - whether it was designed specifically for them or a mix and match - stays within normal limits. Technically yes, there will be a small performance difference if using a B260 made specifically for Lowrance versus a mix and match. But this performance difference is negligible.
One of our engineers created an impedance curve to show this a while ago. I've asked if he can dig up the data so I can send it to you, but I haven't heard back yet. I'm not sure if this answered your question, so if not please let me know.
Best Regards,
Ken Symonds
Airmar Support/Sales
Hello,
The short answer is that yes, there are impedance differences. However, through our testing, the way that the OEM's drive the transducers - whether it was designed specifically for them or a mix and match - stays within normal limits. Technically yes, there will be a small performance difference if using a B260 made specifically for Lowrance versus a mix and match. But this performance difference is negligible.
One of our engineers created an impedance curve to show this a while ago. I've asked if he can dig up the data so I can send it to you, but I haven't heard back yet. I'm not sure if this answered your question, so if not please let me know.
Best Regards,
Ken Symonds
Airmar Support/Sales
blasir
- 6/6
Ciao, qualcuno sa chi vende in Italia o Europa i cavi adattatori per i trasduttori mix And match è in partcolare il cavo prr furuno 585 a 10 pin?
Grazie
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